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question about ground

lightningbolt1

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a couple of weeks ago i moved in into a new place, it's an older building but it seems like a nice an cozy apartment, just what I was looking for. The thing that bothers me is the ground, that is the fact that the ground is tied to the neutral bar. Is this safe or is it something that needs to be taken care of?
 
a couple of weeks ago i moved in into a new place, it's an older building but it seems like a nice an cozy apartment, just what I was looking for. The thing that bothers me is the ground, that is the fact that the ground is tied to the neutral bar. Is this safe or is it something that needs to be taken care of?
Double check if the earth wire is actually connected to a neutral really. If you can share a pic of your set-up and fit, it would be much better and for me, easier to help lol.
 
a couple of weeks ago i moved in into a new place, it's an older building but it seems like a nice an cozy apartment, just what I was looking for. The thing that bothers me is the ground, that is the fact that the ground is tied to the neutral bar. Is this safe or is it something that needs to be taken care of?
Ground tied to neutral at one point is ok. It's normal and don't worry, it's still safe. But if it's bonded somewhere else like the subpanels, do correct it ASAP. Find an electrician in your area or send me a dm so I can try help verify your panel setup.
 
The grounding that's connected to the neutral at the main panel is compliant with codes and safe. However, issues arise when it's bonded in other parts of the building, which can create multiple paths for the neutral return and lead to potential hazards
 
If you are covered by NFPA 70, LightningBolt1, whether or not the two should be bonded in the apartment depends on how the service is distributed.

If the utility transformer goes to each apartment's individual meter separately without a disconnecting means on the way- and the apartments have fire walls- the neutral and ground are to be bonded in your load center with a main disconnect. (The first disconnecting means)
In other words: No way to disconnect power between utility and your load center's main = Bond In The Apartment

If the utility serves several disconnects in, perhaps, a utility room in the building, then travels to each apartment- the neutral and ground are to be separate in your load center.
In other words: There is a place to disconnect power before it gets to your apartment's load center = Separate Neutral & Ground In The Apartment,

But... Article 230.85 kind of muddied this up as it discusses the relatively new requirement for outside disconnects. In your case, I don't think this applies.

And... You mentioned that it is an older building. It may be old enough that the above rules did not apply when the service was installed. It is typically "grandfathered".

Hope This Helps Clarify,
Paul
 
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